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Hi Paul

To jump in and answer your question ive  had the car for nearly 20 years (so still same owner) we took the car to spa and ran it in the one hour race many years ago we had a problem in qualifying so started 96th we came through the field and got in the top ten  and then ran out of petrol in 59th minute lol so has some good memories so not for sale "...........we have just entered our other RS500 (Imberti) into racing ledgers series we entered all 5 races and they have kindly said that we can run either car as it’s an invitation race so no points ....... trying to get Paul to come out to play even if it’s just the classic again .... i would like to thank Paul and his team for all there hard work the car looks stunning and for everyone’s kind words 

 

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Hi Ian it's great to put a name to the car now and what a car it is. I think Paul's going to struggle to let it go when the time comes lol. 

I cant remember if I read it on here or somewhere else but would I be right in saying that when you bought this car it was a rally car and you didn't really know it was Djr2? 

Wow you have 2 gpa cars, is the Imberti one the one Paul has just been working on? 

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Hi rich the car was a race car when I bought it  but the guy who owned it had done a couple of tarmac rallys with it at his local car club ..........you must remember they didn’t really have a value and there was no where to race them it came with paperwork that had djr2 on it  I must admit I new trackstar but not Dick Johnson........I was racing a lotus cortina and a dolomite sprint in a classic series which was split up into years pre 65 pre 74 and pre 84 I I think .........they then introduced pre 90 which is why I purchased djr2

 we did one race spa with it and the club said I couldn’t race in the full championship because it was for group n cars not group a so I got a price to convert djr to group n but was advised not to go ahead with the work so I put it in barn and basically forgot about it.......my son was at Autosport (some 14 years later)he phoned me and said there was a car like ours in caltex colours (Paul’s car) I was going to the show next day so went to see Paul’s car ......being Paul he basically gave me a hail of abuse which I didn’t mind but I said to him do you want to restore it he said if it’s the car which it isn’t I will restore it for and gave me silly price.......  I said ok be in your yard Tuesday from his to mine is 3 hours ish of course it was the car and we stared restoring djr 2 paul and I have become friends we gave him his first drive on track in a group a cosworth at Silverstone  he then got his Msa license and look at him 2 race cars and driving the Bastos car at gold cup

I am very lucky and have quite a few race cars so there was no real rush but we are nearly there now and I am getting very exited to drive djr  ......I don’t usually post mainly because my English and spelling is not  great thank god for spell check i have posted this essay  mainly because we our just the owner of the car at this moment in time and with idjr being what it is we can fill in 20 years of its history 

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That's a great story Ian and thank you for sharing it. I was a little behind the times with the rs500 touring cars as I was only born mid 80s but I love these iconic cars and have spent many years trying to learn about them, for you to own such a piece of Motorsport history is fantastic. I think I've missed the boat for a genuine car but I have 2 here now and there as close to a genuine grpA car as I think I will ever get.

With regards to the link you put up in a previous post for the racing series is that only for genuine cars? 

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On ‎17‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 2:44 AM, ian g said:

Hi Paul always check in with the web site but don’t often post .....what cars have you got now?

Morning Ian, I'm having a break from RS cars at the mo, owned them for well 0ver 30 years now, the over priced road rs500's that dealers have mean people like myself struggle to find a nice one to buy nowadays, although I was pleased to hear last week of 2 very nice rs500's selling, one for 57k, another for 50k, much more sensible prices than the 70k plus price tags. I have a nice m sport bmw, and a totally unrestored 45000 mile 1983 Sierra XR4i, rare car nowadays, with less than 49 registered on the road with dvla. I would love Paul to build me a Group A replica, but even finding a shell nowadays is hard work...

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Hi all 

Thanks Roy just try to tell it as it is always enjoy your posts by the way .........hi  rich HTP stands for Historic technical passport basically you can build a car with no history but it has to conform to the rules of the day they will send out a person to inspect the car then give it its papers at a cost of course around £1200 they are now introducing it to genuine cars as well paul and I have to get our cars htp this year some series only accept genuine cars you say you have 2 cars yourself would you ever race them ?

hi Paul I like the BMW’s which m sport do you have is it a classic or new as for the xr4i I’ve always liked them And with that mileage sounds like a keeper .... rs500 prices have gone mad but most other classic cars have as well .....I was very lucky paul got me a moonstone blue rs500 some time ago max and I use it the most out of all our classics we just love it .....we had it at the Silverstone classic last year a stone went through the radiator on the way home had to get towed home by the RAC lol .....there is talk of a road test between that car and djr 2 for a magazine when she’s finished a comparison as such 

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Oh ok I'm not sure if either of mine would conform for the htp but regards racing them I think I would like to at some point but for the time being there just track cars. Well one is road legal but never gets used on the road and the other I'm still putting together and isn't road legal. 

How would I found out what I need to do to conform for the htp, I'm assuming someone like Paul would probably be the best man for that advise? 

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Hi rich

back in the day all race cars for group a had homologation papers from the fia basically a set of rules this is the web site  https://historicdb.fia.com/ .......if you build the car to the homologation you can then apply for htp papers at the moment htp rs 500 cosworths can race in most series ....... the car will be more expensive to build but will be worth more .....basically it all started with the more exotic cars gt40..... 250gto.....zargarto aston etc because prices for these cars are crazy so clubs said if you have the original car you can build a replica hence htp that was maybe 10/15 years ago it’s just carried on from there .... bit of topic but the aston martin zargarto vev2 is up for auction at Goodwood this year estimate £15 million there is a picture of it in 1962 at Goodwood with Jim Clark driving it being involved in an accident with a 250 gto driven buy john surtees then a 250 swb crashed into them 2 laps later a £50 million pound car crash in today’s money  

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10 hours ago, ian g said:

Hi all 

Thanks Roy just try to tell it as it is always enjoy your posts by the way .........hi  rich HTP stands for Historic technical passport basically you can build a car with no history but it has to conform to the rules of the day they will send out a person to inspect the car then give it its papers at a cost of course around £1200 they are now introducing it to genuine cars as well paul and I have to get our cars htp this year some series only accept genuine cars you say you have 2 cars yourself would you ever race them ?

hi Paul I like the BMW’s which m sport do you have is it a classic or new as for the xr4i I’ve always liked them And with that mileage sounds like a keeper .... rs500 prices have gone mad but most other classic cars have as well .....I was very lucky paul got me a moonstone blue rs500 some time ago max and I use it the most out of all our classics we just love it .....we had it at the Silverstone classic last year a stone went through the radiator on the way home had to get towed home by the RAC lol .....there is talk of a road test between that car and djr 2 for a magazine when she’s finished a comparison as such 

It's just a 3.25i m sport convertible Ian, but its a lovely car to look at and drive, BMW Individual Colour, a feature of a road car to a group a car, that would be good to look at and read, will you be going to media day for the Silverstone classic

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Hi Paul sounds like a great car especially with the spring/summer coming up we will hopefully be at Silverstone press Day would like to try and get djr there seeing Paul on Tuesday for an update 

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3 minutes ago, ian g said:

Hi Paul sounds like a great car especially with the spring/summer coming up we will hopefully be at Silverstone press Day would like to try and get djr there seeing Paul on Tuesday for an update 

I went back in 2012 with jim and icom car, will u be taking any 500's out of track?

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We hope to have 4 cars there all on track bmw tisa (u2tc) bmw e30 m3 listerine Vic Lee car ( supertoures hscc) rs500 Imberti and djr2 (legends) if there all ready lol ........so will be a busy day both Max and I will be driving he has also been asked to drive a Lola for someone 

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